“We will give you your money back right away. No questions asked!“
“People have struggled to get a response“
The program seems okay (guy here), but the customer service sucks.
Suspicious Address: False (+1):
Brand: Pelvic Floor Strong
Company: AMF Training Inc.
Address: 809-110 Switchmen Street Vancouver CANADA V6A2W5*
Email: info@pelvicfloorstrong.com
Phone: 1-800-390-6035
Website: AMF Training
Address is from AMF Training’s Pelvic Floor Strong trademark application.
An apartment; looks okay.
Ridiculous claims: False (+1):
None found.
Onerous terms: Undetermined (0):
| guarantee days | guarantee starts when? | ok to open the package? | ok to try the product? | ok to use the product? | restocking fee |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 60 | ? | yes | ? | ? |
- You can only resolve a dispute thru individual arbitration or, within 60 days of your purchase, in small claims court.
Ads, spam, robocalls: TRUE (-1):
| “do not track” setting | email ads | robo-calls | “do not call” registry | text ads | junk mail | share your data |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| ignored | yes | yes | yes |
- If they sell their company, your personal data “may” be part of the deal.
Lying and deception: TRUE (-1):
AMF Training and ClickBank share responsibility for this offer in a way that I don’t fully understand. Each has posted their own legal documents, which sometimes contradict the advertising or each other.
- Disclaimer: “ClickBank will allow for the return or replacement of any product within 60 days from the date of purchase.“ ClickBank’s Return And Cancellation Policy: “… Sellers are not permitted to make any guarantee that conflicts with the ClickBank return Policy.” But AMF Training’s Terms of Sale state “We will give you a full refund of the purchase price within 60 days of delivery if you are not satisfied for any reason.” The difference between purchase and delivery dates is a big deal.
- Advertised: “If you are not completely satisfied with your purchase, we will give you your money back right away. No questions asked!” “Even if you don’t like the pictures in the manual you can return it by sending one email or one quick phone call that won’t take no longer than 90 seconds.” But ClickBank’s Return And Cancellation Policy says “When a customer contacts ClickBank by phone or online to request a return, our service and support staff attempt to provide the customer with sufficient instruction, customer service, and/or support.” Looks like you’ll be answering a few questions after all.
Chicanery: False (+1):
Popup: “Don’t miss this one-time offer! Try Pelvic Floor Strong For Over 75% OFF Today!” Cutting them some slack here.
Phony reviews: TRUE (-1):
Paid reviewers include Wellness Warrior, Advanced Living, The Signal
Crummy product: Undetermined (0):
What you get for $47:
- Informational video
- Pelvic Floor Strong manual
- 10-minute quick start exercise video
- Exercise manual
- Checklist for diastasis recti improvement
Overpriced: Undetermined (0):
| Seller | item | Rated | price |
|---|---|---|---|
| AMF Training | Pelvic Floor Strong exercise program | $47 |
Bad service: TRUE (-1):
“BBB Accredited Business” refers to ClickBank, not AMF Training. The Better Business Bureau did accredit ClickBank, and rates them A+. But posters there rate ClickBank 1.62 stars. I see that ClickBank has replied to and resolved many complaints posted at the BBB. So if you’re having trouble contacting them, try posting there.
- From BBB: “I try to order exipure online It keeps denying my payment methods I put in my card information two different cards I’ve checked my address I checked the information and all of it was correct. I feel like it’s false advertising that you’re offering this product just to get people’s account numbers? Especially seeing you asking for account numbers expiration CVV address I know my account had enough money in them.” I see many complaints like this. Standard response: “Your attempts were declined by our third party risk control system, which can happen for a lot of different reasons with different rules that get triggered. After a manual review, everything looks good to go, so you can make your purchase attempt again and should not have any further issues.”
- [Futile struggle to cancel an order truncated.] “The credit never appeared on my statement. After waiting a bit and countless hours calls CLKBank and the vendor, no one could help me. I filed a dispute with ***** ****. After numerous additional phone call ***** told me that the vendor denyed the claim. I was NEVER REFUNDED theRefund Date: 11/16/2021 6:00 AM PST Refund Amount: $152.64. The bank tells me to contact the vendor. The vendor tells me to contact the bank. I am due a refund from Click Bank according to their confirmation.”
- From Reviewopedia: “many complaints state that people have struggled to get a response from the company concerning order issues, refund problems, or general questions. … Some buyers did not receive a download link after completing their purchase. The company was unreachable to obtain the link, and they had already completed the payment process. Therefore, they paid the money but received nothing for their purchase and couldn’t get assistance.“
Total score: -1
Unauthorized charges: I found no complaints about this.
Advice: Consult a doctor.
Bloopers:
Watch as Alex Miller turns into Emily Lark: “You may have heard of Emily before… She is known as America’s leading healthy back expert. However, one thing most people don’t know about her is that I used to suffer from embarrassing accidental leakage for many years after the birth of her second child… “It was impossible for me to do things I used to love like go for a run or get up and dance at weddings…and I was even scared every time I sneezed in public. But then my good friend Alex told me about her program …” Does either of them exist? Emily Lark has a LinkedIn profile, but it’s “not in my network” so I can’t look at it. I couldn’t turn up anything about Alex Miller.
Scoring: There may be nothing illegal or wrong with the above business practices. But they suggest to me that the seller is not to be trusted. I’m using my Trustworthy scoring system; -1 means true (bad), +1 means false (good), and 0 means undetermined. The practice scores total to a Trustworthy Score between +10 and -10. I consider the seller responsible for paid reviewers’ statements.
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